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:iconyaoipigglet:
Yaoipigglet Featured By Owner 14 hours ago  Student Writer
FUCK YOUR JOB! YOUR GETTING A BABY!
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:icontrunksxv:
TrunksXV Featured By Owner 14 hours ago
I agree! The baby is once in a lifetime! Jobs and careers come and go!
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leonmyntti Featured By Owner 11 hours ago
Well, technically Babies can be had many times over. And some careers might be harder to get than a baby. Perhaps saying a relationship of this callibur is once in a lifetime is more fitting.
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Yaoipigglet Featured By Owner 4 hours ago  Student Writer
PLUS SHES A JOB. WHEN I THOUGHT I- sorry. Caps lock. 
Being a cop is very dangerous so maybe that's the other reason. 
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yardbird9 Featured By Owner 23 hours ago
This is a really good story. Very good illustration too. Don't stop. Finish it soon, it's that good.
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borba Featured By Owner 22 hours ago
Don't worry, I won't stop this comic (Unless something very bad happens to me, of course).
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Tchelows Featured By Owner Edited 1 day ago
Ishi... acho que ja vi esse roteiro da pagina em algum lugar por aí :o

Caramba... pagina pesadona ><
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:iconborba:
borba Featured By Owner 23 hours ago
Você se lembra onde que você viu?
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:icontchelows:
Tchelows Featured By Owner 21 hours ago
Novelinha "A força do querer" da grobo. aquela mina policial la. nao leve isso á serio ^^'
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:iconborba:
borba Featured By Owner 21 hours ago
Como da Globo eu só assisto aos telejornais, nem fazia idéia disso. Acho que, quando estão maduros o suficiente, certos temas pipocam aqui e ali ao mesmo tempo.
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Tchelows Featured By Owner 16 hours ago
ah, nem digo pipocar. eu tambem nao vejo novelas, só jormais e olhe la um pouco apenas. vi que o tema é parecido quando passava pela sala e vi a chamada dessa atriz e lembrei dela nesse quadrinho. entao por favor, continue! nao desvie o foco ;)
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Budzillakingofbeer Featured By Owner 1 day ago
"Roebuck vs. Wade" was overturned by Zootopia's president, Hamster Trump. So Judy,.. you have no choice.:( (Sad) 
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JohnBobTheKing Featured By Owner 2 days ago
Ouch
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JohnBobTheKing Featured By Owner 2 days ago
Ouch
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AeshaLacrymosa Featured By Owner 2 days ago  Hobbyist General Artist
This is intense..! 
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N1ckLin Featured By Owner 2 days ago  New Deviant
Oh man...
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:iconmalelel:
malelel Featured By Owner Edited 2 days ago  New Deviant
And that's all it boils down to. Her career, that's the real reason. Hah.
 
All the other thing's are nothing more the fears and thing's she was latching onto, and giving excuses. Where they could EASILY go to a doctor and get an opinion from them. It doesn't matter if they are the first Pred/Prey or not, they (doctors and other's in the medical field) have FAR more knowledge when it comes to things like these.

But if her career is the most important thing to her, then why would she EVER start a relationship with someone? IF her career is #1, then why spend that time and effort forming a bond with someone, where it could instead, be spent working or doing something that she cares more about? It's a dangerous job after all, forming romantic bonds with someone that is possibly even her best friend, and also a member of said dangerous job, why would she EVER do that to herself?

I mean, we have no idea if they are partners on the force or not, so that isn't that important. But it could still influence this enough.

But what if something happens to him? Someone that she claims to love? She would be devastated after her loss, thus effecting the way she could do her job. Either by grieving or needing to handle not having him around anymore. (Possibly, for all we know she could get over him dying or getting hurt like it's nothing since her job is more important to her. After all.

It would be far easier to not have a romantic relationship, so she can focus on her career. So WHY did she start this with Nick?
Was this something like a whim to her? Did she just want to try out a predator for a little bit and cut him off once she had her fun? Was she doing this as just some form of stress relieve? Was her job getting challenging and she found out that Nick is there and in love with her, thus she decided to use what he could give her? Some no-strings-attached, (what she thought, Or maybe even hoped for?) sex?

...So is she now panicking since it has gotten to the point that finally she is faced with the reality, that what she is doing is on the cusp of something more than a physical relationship? It feels like it.

Either way, Things don't add up. Nor do they make sense. It's at the point that it just seems like this is; Nick is pro-life. Judy is pro-choice. Neither side is going to back down and Nick is going to realize her true feelings. Both sides are going to split apart and abloo abloo is going to happen.

Lets see if that is the case.
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sagallacci Featured By Owner 1 day ago
I think you're missing much of the interpersonal dynamics of the two. They were drawn together by the shared experiance of the events of the movie, very strong emotions in that and found a bit of an interesting rapport between them. Though not canon, there is the wide spread interpretation that for all of Nicks' "I know everyone" that he doesn't actually have many/any close friends (with the mixed possiiblity of Finnick) and Judy obviously doesn't  know anyone coming into Zootopia. So they have formed a close bond. People need people, and most mammals crave compaionship as well. While Judy has been demonstrated to be very career driven, she's not a monomaniac and wanting a level of a social life is entirely reasonable. The two have been all but inseparable since they met, some years ago, so it is hardly some whim or fling. And she and Nick are partners on the force as well, so they have a clear-eyed notion of the risks involved. Grab some joy in life while you can.

Judy never considered, never planned to be a mother, at least no time soon (or possibly ever) and this surprise has threatened all that she's worked for. Perhaps if they had discussed it up front, it wouldn't be as much of an immediate issue now. Nick would likely better appreciate her position, but now only sees her rejection of the child as a rejection of him by extension.

As an old man who has seen all kinds of relationships as well as exactly been there with my own Wife (she had a professional career) I can say that interpersonal stuff is an awful lot more complicated that then the rather simplistic version you paint.
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malelel Featured By Owner 1 day ago  New Deviant
But that's the thing though, the author themselves has stated the career is the MOST important thing to her. And she is going to fight for that the most, he might have said that she cares about Nick also, but to what end?

In the end her career is the most important thing to her, at least that is what it sure seems like.

Now I do believe in what you had said since you had stated you are aged and also have a partner in life, but only to a certain extent. I don't, but I would have certain believes and standards when it comes to finding another. And your relationship could be very different to everything that we have yet to see with Nick and Judy's relationship.

And she doesn't need to have a romantic bond with another (in this case Nick) since an insanely close familial bond/friendship could still gave what a romantic relationship can give. Just minus the sexual intimacy.
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sagallacci Featured By Owner 22 hours ago
I am not 100% sure I understand you (are you English as a second language?) But it seems that you are suggesting that, because you have an arbitrary standard/expectation of interpersonal relationships, you now insist that these characters much comply to them (?) That anyone could want a romantic and sexual relationship with another without the expectation of reproduction seems a perfectly reasonable direction, unless you're one of those moralizers who don't like the idea of non-procreative sex? Is that your point?
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malelel Featured By Owner 11 hours ago  New Deviant
Yes, I am English. I blame both lack of sleep and just not being very good at getting my thoughts out and into text for the confusion. I apologize. I think I said try and explain it with how each of these character's are coming across as. (I might still confuse you, I am sorry in advance.) Now I might just be looking through rose-tinted glasses, along with just having zero experience when it comes to love, romance, and sexual need. For this, Relationships come as 3 (technically 4) different ways.

Yes, I am English. I blame both lack of sleep and just not being very good at getting my thoughts out and into text for the confusion. I apologize. I think I said try and explain it with how each of these character's are coming across as. (I might still confuse you, I am sorry in advance.) Now I might just be looking through rose-tinted glasses, along with just having zero experience when it comes to love, romance, and sexual need. For this, Relationships come as 3 (technically 4) different ways.

Number 1; Familial/Friendship. Of course this is all about emotional attachment, and people could argue that Nick and Judy see themselves as siblings (I had seen it done before) but for this and reasoning, it's about friendship fro them. At least at the start.

It's without a doubt that they see themselves as very close friends by the end of the movie (even though we have no idea how much they spent with each other during his training) But let's just assume it was frequent enough, and it's all but assured they are going to bond even closer then ever before as their lifes go on.
That's more then fine, and everything is a-ok for them, but the other 2 kinds is really where everything comes to be important.

Number 2; Lover's. Emotional attachment but arguably different from #1. They also don't need to have sexual intimacy to be Lover's either. But for these two, they are obviously at the stage. Children are easily when of the biggest commitments of being together like this, but its not a requirement at all. Just as much as sexual intimacy isn't required, children aren't also a foregone conclusion to have.

But even without any prior knowledge or belief they could have any, Nick is moved (TO TEARS!) at the prospect of becoming a parent. Its obvious that he treats them as lovers and he wants to commit to her for good and wants to be a father. Judy doesn't, which makes me wonder if she was #3. Or just as happy at having the emotional and sexual side of this relationship. (Which is totally fine.) Even though it's been straight out said that Judy cares about her career the most, so once again. I am confused on her emotional attachment to him.

Number 3; Sex friends. Obviously all about the sexual need, and from what I can gather, whoever is together in this relationship never has any form of emotional attachment to the other. And it would be bad if they ever formed said attachment (Unless said members wanted to change to be more and stop this, and all that.) And with how (almost violently), and panic inducing Judy is acting, I wonder if she was only thinking they were #3 or what I already said before.

This is really where I don't know where this Nick and Judy stands right now, I (unless I missed something) don't know how they see each other. It feels like Nick see themselves as lovers and ready to commit to her for good, but Judy either didn't or was confused on where they stood.

I feel that if we just know for certain where this particular Nick and Judy were at, in whatever relationship that they have right now. I would have never gotten so confused and questioning about everything. All we know is that Judy doesn't want fully blown commitment and Nick does, so either they had miss communication and they were confused at where they are actually at.

That can also get into the suspension of disbelief when it comes to hybrids and everything, and how he was so readily accepting of her when she discovered that she was pregnant. If Pred/Prey offspring has NEVER been done before, they why would Nick think they were some kind of genetic miracles and not something for more easily explainable?

Then again that's just unpleasant to think about, but it has been done before. But that's neither here nor there, I'll just accept that Nick and Judy are special snowflakes and they are the very first union between a Pred/Prey.

I can easily get into more but that's not nearly as important as what I am trying to say, just when it comes down to it. We don't know the limit's of Nick and Judy's relationship, which is causing so much confusion and strive when it comes to these twos actions.
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sagallacci Featured By Owner 8 hours ago
It sounds like you have rather clinical and arbitrary definitions of relationships. You seem to suggest that since Judy is thinking about her personal choices and future, that she is somehow less committed to the relationship than Nick? That to be true to the relationship, she would nessisarily subordinate herself to Nick and his desires? Hardly a balance relationship and a rather unfair measure. Why is the idea of Nick and Judy having a otherwise good strong relationship, except for this point, so hard for you to understand? A couple are not slaves to each other if they really love each other. Certainly not if they are rational adults.
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malelel Featured By Owner 5 hours ago  New Deviant
I had a feeling that it would come across as that, that's my own fault.

It just feels like both sides really ain't coming to a consensus to what they are trying to understand from each other's choices. Nor really where they stand within their relationship. Judy is violently denying and not caring about Nick's views and what Nick considers such a major part of their relationship now. And Nick is taking that as not only as a refusal to parenthood but also a refusal of his own self and what he thought he meant to her. Neither side is really listening to each other.

And when you say "except for this point" that feels like you are saying it's not that big of deal, like they disagreed on what they wanted to have for diner one night.

It's not. at least it doesn't feel like to me. It's a major decision on both of their parts, something that will shape the course of both of their life's until the pass away. What I REALLY feel like, no matter what the outcome is going to be, whatever they have right now is going to be ruined. No matter what, someone is going to walk away from this; feeling betrayed, used, and lesser then what they thought of themselves, along with a broken trust/care of their partner.

It's not something they could simply get over in a few days and act like nothing really happened. But that's due to literately EVERYTHING stacked against them. It's almost a tragic comedy at this point.

I guess all I can do is wait and see how hurt and ruined they are going to be at the end of this.
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borba Featured By Owner 22 hours ago
You said that correctly. A man and a woman can have sex and love each other enough to share a life together, but that doesn't mean that this woman, for her own reasons, wants to have children with that man (or any other man).
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segamarvel Featured By Owner Edited 12 hours ago
That would have been so much easier if Nick hadn't wanted it. So no matter what he's still at risk of being denied something he wants deerly. People always say they are pro choice. But they don't really mean pro choice for both sides. If Nick could take that baby right now he would. Heck what's to stop him from adopting a kid right now and still date Judy? That's his choice isn't it? It's not that Judy having the choice bothers me. It's what choice she might make that does. I can only hope they can come to an agreement without either side losing out on something. I don't expect Nick to just roll over and be supportive of this so easily. When the woman wants a child and the man refuses society FORCES the man to take care of the child finances. but when the man wants the child and the woman doesn't then it's screw the man's feelings on the matter. Am I right? Again this is only a problem for me because Nick wanted this so badly to the point of crying tears of joy. All of Judy's reasons were valid. It's just the final reason that comes off selfish. Having an abortion to save a life is one thing. But doing so just because it is seen as an inconvenience...That's just uncomfortable to think about. No one should feel empowered by doing this. I'm not saying I don't believe in pro choice. I'm saying that it shouldn't be made so casually. When do we decide whether the baby has value or not? Either it does or it doesn't. www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMwkQV…
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sagallacci Featured By Owner 7 hours ago
Since it is the Mother who has to take all the risk up front, and the expectation that she'll be responsible for the child after, I think she has the absolute right to choose if she is going to go through with it. The bigger part of the problem at the moment for Judy is that she'd been blind-sided by this. Clearly, she had no expectation of getting pregnant at all, and no intention of becoming a Mother anytime soon. That Nick wants the child and seems to be feeling that Judy's rejection of the child is, by extension, a rejection of him, is, unfortunately, not surprising
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segamarvel Featured By Owner 7 hours ago
If she does end up in very real danger then I agree they should abort. However I think she should see a doctor to confirm that before making any rash decisions.
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leonmyntti Featured By Owner 11 hours ago
Good Points. I would agree to most Everything of what you said. However, when discussing pro choice its improtant to be aware that it is a very grey area. Neither party no matter what angel you take has imperical evidence for their case. Some have reasons to Believe its a big thing to abort at any stage of pregnancy while others differ.
I Think the real problem here is not the disagreement between Nick and Judy. Rather the lack of discussion as Judy mentioned. To avoid the topic until its a pressing concern is what really stands to cause problems for the relationship.
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segamarvel Featured By Owner 9 hours ago
Yeah. I'm understand both sides have pros and cons to them. It's pretty obvious what way I want this to end though. All I can do is pray she makes the right choice.
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leonmyntti Featured By Owner 1 day ago
Well said, in the end its hard to predict exactly how things will pan out. Although Nick projecting the rejection of the Child as a rejection of himself sounds like a very plausible idea.
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xethanx94 Featured By Owner 2 days ago
Damn...
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NovaAndHerMoondust Featured By Owner 2 days ago  New Deviant Hobbyist General Artist
My heart!!!!😭😭😭
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AldoBronyJDC Featured By Owner 2 days ago  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I really love how you make Judy and Nick so straight out of the movie Borba, you really talented! :D :meow: :la:
And the comic goes good, this have become so tense and interesting, Judy fears the child to be a freak and fears about her career and Nick by the other hand it's desiring his baby but with a discussion with Judy that might no turn good, oh my!
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borba Featured By Owner Edited 22 hours ago
Thank you! But I must say I draw them slightly off-model. For instance, I draw Judy's nose a bit smaller than her "real" nose. I think she's more feminine this way.
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AldoBronyJDC Featured By Owner 19 hours ago  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yeah, you're right, she's better that way! 
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Izbetthequeen Featured By Owner 2 days ago  Student Writer
Oh Borba, no matter how you take this story I am hooked. This is great, and I will patiently wait for every page.
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borba Featured By Owner 22 hours ago
Glad you are enjoying this comic!
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DragonKnightGamer Featured By Owner 2 days ago  Hobbyist
what? judy lots cops have children... nick is a cop too and he is your partner
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newpikachu Featured By Owner 1 day ago  New Deviant
Think about the kid.
Father and mother being cops. 
Not knowing if someday they might not come back from work. Because they're dead.
Being pregnant she can't train her body, she can't perform all kind of duties.
Also, caring about the kid, she and him might also try for another career, just so they can stay far from dangerous situations, and provide for the kid as many years as possible.
"Lots of cops have children" "Lots of people use drugs" Because lots do, it doesn't mean it's right, reasonable, or intelligent.
It's not as simple as it might look buddy.
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DragonKnightGamer Featured By Owner 1 day ago  Hobbyist
Thanks a lot for your opinion, but you don't need to take it so seriously calm down :T
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newpikachu Featured By Owner 21 hours ago  New Deviant
That's true I'm kinda sorry.
I mean seriously I get fucked up when I'm on meds (meds for TDH)
So really sorry m8 didn't mean to be rude or anything
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DragonKnightGamer Featured By Owner 6 hours ago  Hobbyist
No problem man, i have own opinion too but i think will give them when this comic is finish
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leonmyntti Featured By Owner 11 hours ago
Nah man its fine. Who says you cant have a serious discussion here. I wouldnt say its un intelligent to have kids if you work as a cop however. The risk of Death for working as a cop is probably lower than those who do Heavy machinery stuff. I have no stats but its just what I imagine.
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supergenie Featured By Owner 2 days ago
Why I got the feeling about will see more tears coming.
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dari7270 Featured By Owner 2 days ago  New Deviant Student Artisan Crafter
You're not alone ♪♫ lol :(
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TheAssassin2 Featured By Owner 2 days ago
There it is. I was wondering when she was going to pull the job card on this. I can understand why she did though. She fought so hard to get where she is now. Me and Judy are a lot alike in that way though I haven't finished my fight yet. I honestly don't know what I would do if I was in Judy's situation. I'm a boy so I can't have a baby but if this ever happens to me I'm going to try and be as supportive as I can.
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dari7270 Featured By Owner 2 days ago  New Deviant Student Artisan Crafter
damn... I really feel a break up coming :'( damn
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PatrickMarW Featured By Owner 2 days ago
Drama start now XD lol
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Myrkin Featured By Owner 2 days ago
This is pretty good comic touching on serious issue. It may cause negative feelings among the readers, since it's the kind of topic on which people have strong opinions, but don't let that discourage you from continuing it or making other comics like this one. You're amazing artist, Borba. :)
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borba Featured By Owner 22 hours ago
Thank you! I thought someone should bring edgy themes to this fandom. Then I said to myself "Why not?" and started creating these comics.
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